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17th Nov 2025

Reimagining Work Beyond Time and Hierarchy with Brian Gorman

In a world obsessed with artificial intelligence, what if the future of work actually belongs to authentic intelligence?

In this episode, Amy Lynn Durham sits down with Brian Gorman, author of Leading Into the Age of Wisdom: Reimagining the Future of Work, to explore how leaders can reclaim humanity at the heart of business.

Together, they unpack three essential shifts:

💡 Reclaiming the Human Core: What truly separates wisdom from AI, and why empathy and discernment may be our most vital leadership tools.

🔄 Rethinking Work: How to move from time-based pay to energy- and results-driven work, and why flexibility creates more humane workplaces.

🔮 Leading Into the Age of Wisdom: What wisdom circles teach us about collective intelligence and how to lead from presence, not power.

Brian and Amy also discuss how fear of AI can become an invitation to rediscover purpose, how wisdom emerges from collaboration, and how unlearning old paradigms can open us to a more conscious, connected future of work.

Listen if you're ready to lead not to control, but to liberate.

📘 Grab Brian's book, "Leading Into the Age of Wisdom", and connect with him on LinkedIn.

🎧 Create Magic at Work® is hosted by Amy Lynn Durham, executive coach and founder of Create Magic at Work®, where spiritual intelligence meets modern leadership.

Additional Resources:

  1. Get Brian's new book: "Leading Into the Age of Wisdom"
  2. Connect with Brian on LinkedIn
  3. Listen to Brian's podcast: Qonversations: Powered by Quantuvos
  4. Learn more about Brian's work!
  5. Connect with Amy Lynn Durham
  6. Learn More About Create Magic at Work

Key Takeaways:

  1. Wisdom guides how we use AI-driven intelligence.
  2. We're entering a transformative Age of Wisdom.
  3. Human connection and empathy are workplace essentials.
  4. Measure productivity by energy, not hours.
  5. Leadership thrives through shared, collective wisdom.
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About the Podcast

Create Magic At Work®
Spiritual Intelligence, Conscious Leadership, and the Future of Work
Create Magic At Work® is a leadership podcast exploring spiritual intelligence, conscious leadership, and the future of work. Through conversations with visionary leaders, coaches, authors, and entrepreneurs, the show examines how leaders can navigate uncertainty, cultivate self awareness, and create workplaces that are both high performing and deeply human.

Many episodes explore themes such as transformational leadership, intuition in decision making, organizational change, and the inner work required to lead well. The show also introduces frameworks rooted in spiritual intelligence, including SQ21, the Archetypes of Change, and the Edgewalker philosophy. These perspectives help listeners understand how people respond to transformation and support leaders in walking the edge into quantum leadership, where business decisions ripple outward for the greater good.

Listeners of Create Magic At Work® are leaders who want to edgewalk rather than sleepwalk through their work and life. They want to bring their full selves into the spaces they inhabit, including their spirituality from a faith neutral lens. Many are founders, coaches, and professionals seeking deeper meaning in their work and lives.

If you care about leadership that blends strategy, spiritual intelligence, and the courage to walk the edge during times of change, you're in the right place.

About your host

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Amy Lynn Durham

Amy Lynn Durham is the founder of the executive coaching firm Create Magic At Work® and Magic Thread Media™, a curated boutique podcast network of conscious voices. She is an executive coach and leadership advisor who works with senior leaders and organizations navigating complex change.

A former corporate executive turned executive coach, Amy blends grounded business experience with a deeper exploration of spiritual intelligence and quantum leadership. Her work helps leaders expand beyond traditional leadership models to consider the ripple effects of their decisions on people, culture, and the future.

Amy believes magic at work is not a metaphor. It emerges when leaders go beyond emotional intelligence and cultivate spiritual intelligence, learning to lead from their higher selves rather than from their ego. Through her work, she helps leaders develop the awareness and presence needed to make wise, compassionate decisions even when under pressure while maintaining inner peace.

She is the host of the globally recognized Create Magic At Work® podcast, where she interviews visionary leaders, authors, and change makers exploring spiritual intelligence, conscious leadership, and the future of work. The show often features what Amy calls “voices from the edge” — leaders and thinkers who challenge conventional ideas about leadership and human potential.

Amy is also the author of Create Magic At Work® and Creating Career Magic: A Daily Prompt Journal, and is a sought-after speaker and podcast guest known for bridging modern business challenges with spiritual intelligence, relational wisdom, and practical leadership insight.

Across all of her work, Amy’s mission is to help leaders make wise, compassionate decisions even under stress while envisioning workplaces where people and performance thrive together.

UC Berkeley Certified Executive Coach • ICF Certified Coach • Certified Spiritual Intelligence Coach (SQ21) • Archetypes of Change Facilitator • Edgewalker Facilitator